

It’s basically fizzy water with something in it and I am drinking this simply because it’s almost 5pm and I’ve just had two weeks of staff meetings nonstop and I am a shell of a person. It’s like, I don’t even know what alcohol it is, vodka maybe? I don’t know. Tsh: It is like a hard seltzer but in a can. You stopped drinking after White Claw came out so I’m guessing you’ve never had one. Tsh: I decided to go really classy and I’m drinking a black cherry White Claw. Waterloo, if you’re listening, give me some blueberry, baby. Seth: I like it when I can get that flavor in a coffee from time to time but I sort of expected to get punched in the mouth with blueberry but instead this is a whiff, if you will, of blueberry. Tsh: I don’t know if blueberry makes good drink, I think I’ve learned. This one doesn’t really give me the full blueberry punch in the mouth that I want. And you know how I feel about Waterloo, I love it. I’ve got to be honest with you, this one kind of misses of all the Waterloos.
Seth: This episode is brought to you in part by, I say in part because it’s not sponsored, but in part, because I’m drinking Waterloo but I’m drinking a blueberry Waterloo. Tsh: This is A Drink With a Friend, I’m Tsh Oxenreider. The Presence of the Kingdom, by Jaques Ellul Support the show - buy the next round of drinks! Tsh: Newsletter | Twitter | Instagram | Website Seth: Newsletter | Twitter | Instagram | Website


Seth and Tsh unpack whose older work affects them today - and who they’ve grown to appreciate even more the older they get. There are SO many dead people who still live through their phenomenal work, and in 2021 we should both enjoy it and listen to what it teaches us …because clearly there’s something noteworthy there. This is why it’s good for us to notice what stuff has stood the test of time, whose art has endured. But a whole lot of what’s applause-seeking now will be forgotten in a year, or decade, or heck - next month. But… Will this work and these ideas endure? Some of it, possibly. Our modern culture loves the here-and-now, preferring all our focus tilts towards the latest trends, the newest relevant art, the loudest and most attention-getting current Thought Leader™.
